review of "Two Faces of Islam"

[carool kersten]

A review of Stephen Schwartz' "The Two Faces of Islam" has been posted at
amazon.com
You can find it under the following link:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/cm/member-reviews/-/A2NYJBKWC15IDI/1/ref=cm_cr_auth/102-1907354-8375324

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Carool Kersten

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[Afdhere Jama]

salam,

the problem is not wahabbism. most muslims are not wahabbis. most muslim
whackos are not even wahabbis. the problem is that people forget islam is a
religion... and muslims are people. there has never been a time when all
muslims were "cool" ... nor has ever been a time when all were whackos.

before i even read the book, i had a problem with the title "two faces" --
what the? islam of today, yesterday, and probably tomorrow.... always has
many faces, depending on who is following it. shi'ism is very different from
suffism, just as sunnism is very different from ahmaddiya... and the
non-sectarian muslim soul is very different from the druze.... and the
nation of islam is different.... well, you get the picture :)



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[kas2eileen]

review of "Two Faces of Islam"

Salaam Steve Schwartz is a Muslim. He was covering the war in Bosnia or
Kosovo and became exposed to islam there. He converted and has been active
in Shaik Kabbani's naqshabandi group. He wrote an article in their now
defunct Muslim magazine several years ago and described his conversion and
struggles with the prayer times. Eileen
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Date: Tue, 4 May 2004 12:26:01 -0400

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From: inas younis
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:44 AM
Subject: RE: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] review of "Two Faces of Islam"
I disagree with Carool postion with respect to Mr. Schwartz book. I found

the book to be overall an accurate and fair assessment of the pernicious
elements of wahhabism and the havoc it has wreacked on the Islamic world.
He has performed a great service by highlighting the great disparity between
these TWO faces of Islam. And by doing so, has shed some much needed light
on the mainstream tradition of of a tolerant Islam. If he was a Muslim, I
would have accussed him of being too polite. To quesiton his credibility
and motives, is I think inspired more by the fact that he is not a muslim,
then that he is lacking on either accounts.

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Subject: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] review of "Two Faces of Islam"
Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 04:15:12 +0000
A review of Stephen Schwartz' "The Two Faces of Islam" has been
posted at amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/cm/member-reviews/-/A2NYJBKWC15IDI/1/

ref=cm_cr_auth/102-1907354-8375324

Regards,
Carool Kersten
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[Afdhere Jama]

salam, inas,

i think that is a little bit of a stretch. i promise you, most muslims in
turkey, iran and -- say -- bosnia... as well as many other places... are not
effected by wahabbism. wahabbis are backed by a few rich folks... and their
wealth certainly does go further than their imagination but it does not
speak to/for/of the majority of the muslims.

i went to indonesia recently-- and it is the biggest muslim country in the
world... and you can definitely smell wahabbism in the air... but just
there, not in muslim homes :) it just does not sit well with most folks.

that said, wahabbism is loud, powerful and controling at "important"
countries like -- say -- the united states, where they own/operate the
majority of the mosques. fortunately, even here... most muslims leave their
crap at the mosques ... and certainly most muslims go there for the
convinience... not what is preached therein, alhamdulillah.



Afdhere Jama
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website: http://www.huriyahmag.com

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