y2
2004-03-09 07:10:28 UTC
Salaams,
Well, to start off with. I have my suspicions as to the intentions of this
question, but I'll bite anyways.
1. A muslim is never alloed to be unfaithful. You are NOT allowed to have
sex with slaves as if they're objects.
As I was taught, the idea of 'slaves' as mentioned in the koran are refered
to in 2 contexts. I of course had questions on reading the English
translation of slaves, and it was explained in this context.
1. The recognition that slaves did exist at that time. And the koran has
no fear addressing this problem and thus declares way to free slaves
2. 'slaves' as those captured in battle has more to do with the concept of
the modern prisoner of war. And thus, you most certainly withhold from them
some rights, but their children and what not must be born free. You can
most certainly marry one of this POWs...They can and should be exchanged
with your own POWs.
The possibility of multiple wives is of course something that is there. Its
a matter of responsbility and circumstance. Most certainly in times of war
if many men died, it would be reasonable if a man could have more than one
woman. This has nothing to do with a faithfulness. The man is still
required to be faithful to his wives, equally.
The 'ease' of divorce is nothing to be exploited by anyone. Those who do
are committing a sin. Why would GOD make it difficult for two people who
cannot continue as a family to divorce?
I would first question the basis of each of your points (1-3) before jumping
to the next stage of conclusions.
Yameen
Well, to start off with. I have my suspicions as to the intentions of this
question, but I'll bite anyways.
1. A muslim is never alloed to be unfaithful. You are NOT allowed to have
sex with slaves as if they're objects.
As I was taught, the idea of 'slaves' as mentioned in the koran are refered
to in 2 contexts. I of course had questions on reading the English
translation of slaves, and it was explained in this context.
1. The recognition that slaves did exist at that time. And the koran has
no fear addressing this problem and thus declares way to free slaves
2. 'slaves' as those captured in battle has more to do with the concept of
the modern prisoner of war. And thus, you most certainly withhold from them
some rights, but their children and what not must be born free. You can
most certainly marry one of this POWs...They can and should be exchanged
with your own POWs.
The possibility of multiple wives is of course something that is there. Its
a matter of responsbility and circumstance. Most certainly in times of war
if many men died, it would be reasonable if a man could have more than one
woman. This has nothing to do with a faithfulness. The man is still
required to be faithful to his wives, equally.
The 'ease' of divorce is nothing to be exploited by anyone. Those who do
are committing a sin. Why would GOD make it difficult for two people who
cannot continue as a family to divorce?
I would first question the basis of each of your points (1-3) before jumping
to the next stage of conclusions.
Yameen
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:25:03 +0000
Subject: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] More on Sex
Salaams everyone
The usual take on this sex is that it is sacred etc. This is a useful
message to propogate at a time of HIV/AIDS.
Yet, several issues make me wonder if, however useful, and
however desperate
I am to make the argument, this is an argument that can
really withstand
Qur'anic scrutiny. Let's look at the following
a) the phenomenon of temporary marriage - even if no longer
applicable,
i.e., mansukh
b) the ease of divorce
c) the possibility of four wives
d) the permissability of sex with any amount of slaves
The prohibition on Zina is a matter completely aside. This
prohibition says
nothing about the sanctity of sex or the need for one
partner. It may say
some stuff about fidelity, or the sanctity of marriage.
The dominant Islamic message has been one of 'be faithful" -
the B in the
ABC. Does this faithfulness have anything to with the
sanctity of sex inside
marriage? If yes, then why can I have as many other sexual
partners as I
want as long as I own them?
Salaams
Talib
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:25:03 +0000
Subject: [Progressivemuslimsnetwork] More on Sex
Salaams everyone
The usual take on this sex is that it is sacred etc. This is a useful
message to propogate at a time of HIV/AIDS.
Yet, several issues make me wonder if, however useful, and
however desperate
I am to make the argument, this is an argument that can
really withstand
Qur'anic scrutiny. Let's look at the following
a) the phenomenon of temporary marriage - even if no longer
applicable,
i.e., mansukh
b) the ease of divorce
c) the possibility of four wives
d) the permissability of sex with any amount of slaves
The prohibition on Zina is a matter completely aside. This
prohibition says
nothing about the sanctity of sex or the need for one
partner. It may say
some stuff about fidelity, or the sanctity of marriage.
The dominant Islamic message has been one of 'be faithful" -
the B in the
ABC. Does this faithfulness have anything to with the
sanctity of sex inside
marriage? If yes, then why can I have as many other sexual
partners as I
want as long as I own them?
Salaams
Talib
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